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Today, I finished the install of the "Vshni" rancho fix.

The truck now sits even at 39 inches, centre of wheel well on all four corners. The only difference with the parts list is I went with RS9000xl adjustable series for the rear shocks.

With that said, a big thank you to Vshni for coming up with the parts list and sharing it. Another thanks to all the mad scientists on the forum who are always willing to help.

I did the job myself, and I took my time. So it was a day and half in total. But, I wasn't working like a mad man, but rather plugging along. I also used a haynes manual for torque settings etc. The final step will be a an alignment for good measure.

I would say to folks, that first, remove the fuses that control the air compressor and air suspension modulator. I would also say, that before you start, have either a 21mm crowfoot wrench, or a flex head ratchet to remove the top shock bolt. Its awkward to say the least.

I did not flash the the computer (I dont have the diagnostic tool to reset/remove the air suspension error code), so I have a brief error message on start up. (It chimes once and you dont see it again till you shut off and start up).

I ve included a few pictures.

(As the truck has 82k on it, I figured I might as well change out the sway bar links and bushing. I installed mevotechs with a grease zerk all the way around.)

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Looks good! How do you like the ride compared to the air?
 

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Today, I finished the install of the "Vshni" rancho fix.

The truck now sits even at 39 inches, centre of wheel well on all four corners. The only difference with the parts list is I went with RS9000xl adjustable series for the rear shocks.

With that said, a big thank you to Vshni for coming up with the parts list and sharing it. Another thanks to all the mad scientists on the forum who are always willing to help.

I did the job myself, and I took my time. So it was a day and half in total. But, I wasn't working like a mad man, but rather plugging along. I also used a haynes manual for torque settings etc. The final step will be a an alignment for good measure.

I would say to folks, that first, remove the fuses that control the air compressor and air suspension modulator. I would also say, that before you start, have either a 21mm crowfoot wrench, or a flex head ratchet to remove the top shock bolt. Its awkward to say the least.

I did not flash the the computer (I dont have the diagnostic tool to reset/remove the air suspension error code), so I have a brief error message on start up. (It chimes once and you dont see it again till you shut off and start up).

I ve included a few pictures.

(As the truck has 82k on it, I figured I might as well change out the sway bar links and bushing. I installed mevotechs with a grease zerk all the way around.)

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How's the ride quality on it compared to the air ride? And do you have any new pictures? Been looking into this setup but thinking of going with 35 inch tires too
 

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Looks good! How do you like the ride compared to the air?
So..to be fair.

With the sir suspension as unreliable as it was, last winter, I thawed the truck out and then raised the height to "off road" and pulled the fuses for the air compressor and ride height sensors. Since then, the truck has been at off road height, and the ride has been rougher than it would be on the "normal' setting.

What I can say, is the truck is at off road height and rides smoother/ less jarring. As the Ranchos are adjustable, I have them set at "5" which is how they come from the factory.

I am on gravel/dirt roads daily, but rarely off the beaten path.

Overall, if your air suspension is unreliable in the cold, this is worth your while.
 

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How's the ride quality on it compared to the air ride? And do you have any new pictures? Been looking into this setup but thinking of going with 35 inch tires too
those pictures are from this weekend after I completed the work.

I too am looking at new tires. Either a 305 or 315.
 

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Now I'm confused. Do you have the 2 inch quick lift or the 4 inch one?
What are you confused over?

i followed Vshni’s part list. The only substitution was the rear shocks. I opted for the rs9000xl series that are adjustable ( same as the quick loads).

the rancho’s quickloads take the rake out. So everything sits at approx 39 inches, ground to centre of wheel well arc.
 

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Now, the stock Toyos..285/70/17. The dont fill the wheel well now..so once they are done I may bump up sizes. I may consider changing to the BF Goodrich KO2..
 

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I've heard good things about those, I'm considering with the rancho quick lifts since I know I do mainly daily driving but keep my 17 inch tires and buff up with a 35 inch tires. Thats my plan
 

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So after a week, I like the ride of the rancho shocks and molar rear coils.

The ride is stiff without be jarring. ( I left the Rancho adjustments at "5", which is the factory setting).

If you are having air ride issues, for about 1300-1500 CDN, you can solve your problems (you doing the work).

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I have mine at the shop right now getting the air ride ripped out. Just curious if any of you guys have done anything with the old buttons on the console. Can you buy a new set without those?
 

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Yeah basically if itll fit a 4th gen 1500 it'll fit your truck but going the route you want to your also gonna need shock upper mounts spring isolaters and spring seat isolators for the front since I dont think we can reuse the ones from the air bags that should be about it if I'm forgetting something I'm sure someone else will chime in
 

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Sorry to be the old fart here. I'm not as sharp as I used to be. As I read though this thread.
I noticed a lot of you went "different routes" but with the same outcome. If I were to remove the air suspension on my 2016 Ram 1500 Sport Crew 4x4 hemi, could I just purchase the adjustable bilstein 5100 fronts and matching rear shocks and use a coil spacer for some lift? Other than those struts and shocks. I'd jsut need to purchase 4 new coils and insulators? My apologies if I'm missing something. I'm too old to be constantly going to the dealer to have this suspension looked at from November to April. It's very frustrating. My front is bottomed out. Rear is jacked up. Buttons won't respond. Sometimes I go out and the rear is down and front is up. Sometimes I'll park it in entry exit and when I go out it's in OR2 and won't respond or vice versa. Even when I start driving it won't change if stuck in either mode. It's dangerous in OR2 on the highway as its unstable. It beats and smashes in entry exit. What a horrible setup.
No need to apologize my friend. We are all here to seek knowledge from each other and share common experiences. tips and advice.

So, to start I will say, I am not a mechanic. Just a guy who tinkers. So take this advice for what it is worth.

As I see it, you have options.

1. If you can, get your truck to a heated garage and leave it there. The longer the better (8 to 10 hours). Check to make sure that the fuses associated to the air ride ride are good (there are two. One is for the compressor and the other is for the height modulation). Hopefully after 8-10 hours in a warm garage, the system will reset itself.

If it does reset, I would set the truck to the height you want, and pull the two fuses mentioned above (I cant remember their numbers....).

You will not be able to adjust your suspension with the fuses out, and on vehicle start up, you will receive the " Service Air Suspension Immediately" message. Some people have said that your auto-start (if equipped) is tied into these two circuits. As I do not have auto start, I cant confirm or deny if its affected.

I drove my truck like this for 6 months, with no noted adverse affect.

2. The second option, is what I refer to as the Vshni fix using Rancho quick load struts, Rancho shocks and Mopar OEM rear coils and insulators. If you scroll through the thread, he provides the entire parts list. I ordered everything from that list and did the work myself in my garage. Nothing extra required.

This option will give you a levelled truck, where all four corners are sitting at an approximate height of 39 inches, as measured at the centre of arc on your wheel wells. This removes the factory rake of 2 inches (approximately).

With this option, I also removed the fuses that control the air suspension and height modulation. On start up you get the "Service Air Suspension Immediately " warning, and then it goes away until you shut down and start up again. Some of the fellas on here have a solution that flashes your ecm and removes this warning. I didn't do that, but by the sounds of it, its doable with the right technology.

3. The billstein fix.I would scroll through the thread as I believe there is a fellow who used the 5100s, and also provided a parts list. I do not believe he used any spacers to provide lift (the front struts can adjust to give you just over 2" of lift to remove factory rake).

You will however need to find (x2) mounting brackets for your coil over springs on your front struts. Billstein 5100s require you to use the mounting bracket that are on your existing front strut. The issue is, your Air Ride struts do not have that bracket. And without the bracket that slides over the strut, your coil has nothing to sit on.

I hope this helps.

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I have mine at the shop right now getting the air ride ripped out. Just curious if any of you guys have done anything with the old buttons on the console. Can you buy a new set without those?
I left mine as is. The reason being, if I deiced down the road to sell the truck, I can say to the fella...all the air suspension stuff is still there and give him the struts/shocks with the attached air bags.. I m not sure what condition any of that would be in after years of non-operation..but its an option for someone.
 

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Thanks for the info! If I go with the 4 bilstein 5100s, would you happen to know what the part numbers are or where the best place would be to purchase them? shock upper mounts spring isolaters and spring seat isolators for the front

That sir I do not know.

However, if you scroll back, there is a fellow I believe that did the job you are contemplating. He would be your best source of information.
 

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Thanks for the info! If I go with the 4 bilstein 5100s, would you happen to know what the part numbers are or where the best place would be to purchase them? shock upper mounts spring isolaters and spring seat isolators for the front
Taken from "Ducatista" on page three of this thread.

Hey guys,

I've decided to go for the Bilstein 5100 series set up, this involves a few more factory parts as apposed to the Rancho quick strut system but I prefer the Bilstein over Rancho. I find the build quality is a lot better and the ride is a lot smoother. This system allows a raise of 0-2.75" in the front and a 0-1" raise in the rear. I am sticking with factory ride height as my short ass can't get into lifted trucks without destroying my seats lol

NOTE: I was able to do some digging and I can add to this conversation. If you are converting a diesel with air ride to coils, you will need different "FRONT" springs to compensate for the corresponding weight. If it's a Hemi, same idea.

I'm converting my 2016 Ram 1500 Limited 4x4 EcoDiesel.
The VIN# I used to order hard parts was 1C6RR7PM8JS313261 which was a 2016 Ram 1500 Longhorn 4x4 EcoDiesel without air suspension

I was able to track down the sales code to delete the air ride which I found off a 2018 Ram 1500 Limited 4x4 EcoDiesel VIN# 1C6RR7PM8JS313261
The dealer will need to do this with the Chrysler STAR computer
(SER) Air suspension, 4-corner (which most of you know of this one)
(SE8) Air suspension, 4-corner delete (This hasn't been confirmed or tested yet, I'll firm it up later next week)

Here is the parts list so far:

2x Front Bilstein Struts 5100 Series: 24-187367
2x Rear Bilstein Shocks 5100 Series: 24-187374
2x Front Coil Spring for EcoDiesel: 68210971AA
2x Front Strut mount: 55398091AF
2x Front Strut Dust Shield: 68041469AB (This needs to be cut down, consult Bilstein install manual)
2x Front Strut Isolator1: 55366387AA
2x Front Strut Isolator2: 55366975AB
1x Left Rear Coil Spring: 05154649AA
1x Right Rear Coil Spring: 05154650AA
2x Rear Coil Seat: 52855789AB

Most of these parts can be purchased from www.rockauto.com

Also you will need 2 struts from any Ram 4x4 2009 and Up. I went to the dealer and they had some broken ones left over from a previous service which they gave me for free. You'll need to remove the lower shock seat that's on the strut. A little bit of WD40 and a hammer should knock it loose. Otherwise you'll have to purchase two new struts from Chrysler. I have attached a photo.

I will have pictures and more details about the whole install later in the week.

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