[morty]

Does your Rebel come with a Borg Warner 44-44 or Borg Warner 44-45 transfer case?
An easy way to tell is by looking at your 4x4 controls and seeing if it has (2wd, 4 auto, 4 lock and 4 lo) which would be a 44-44 or if it instead has (2wd, 4 lock, 4 lo) which would be a 44-45.

 

[Tyler]

Does your Rebel come with a Borg Warner 44-44 or Borg Warner 44-45 transfer case?
An easy way to tell is by looking at your 4x4 controls and seeing if it has (2wd, 4 auto, 4 lock and 4 lo) which would be a 44-44 or if it instead has (2wd, 4 lock, 4 lo) which would be a 44-45.

Mine doesn't have 4 auto.

 

[morty]

Mine doesn't have 4 auto.

That's good to hear. Mine is on order and after reading about the 44-44 TC, I was a bit worried I just bought an all-wheel drive truck.

 

[Circuitjc]

The Rebel does not have that crappy "auto" 4wd. It is actually 4WD and not AWD. I would never buy an AWD truck. The clutches always slip.

 

[morty]

The Rebel does not have that crappy "auto" 4wd. It is actually 4WD and not AWD. I would never buy an AWD truck. The clutches always slip.

That's good. Apparently lots of people hating on that "4 auto" in another forum.

 

[RustedRebel]

I was about to say I don't think any Rebel made has the "4 Auto" option anymore. Doesn't matter where they ship to all Rebels are made in Warren, MI so they don't come with a different 4x4 setup option

 

[Circuitjc]

I was about to say I don't think any Rebel made has the "4 Auto" option anymore. Doesn't matter where they ship to all Rebels are made in Warren, MI so they don't come with a different 4x4 setup option

The Rebel gets the locking transfer case and the others get the auto 4wd the last time I checked.

When I ordered mine I made sure it came with a proper locking transfer case since I actually go off-road with mine. Auto 4WD sounds awesome until you need it. I can't find it now but I seen a video of an auto 4WD truck stuck on ice with one wheel slipping, then stopping, then slipping, ...

Do a youtube search for "AWD vs 4WD" to learn more. Auto 4WD is actually AWD.

 

[RedRebel]

4 Wheel auto is also a weaker transfer case. The one we got is not only reinforced but would not have the room to accommodate the 4wd auto. It is slightly bigger, and a lot more money to fix

 

[morty]

and a lot more money to fix

Good thing I opted for that skid plate option then

 

[RedRebel]

Good thing I opted for that skid plate option then

Not sure you had a choice. I thought they pulled the 4wd auto off production cause its weaker

 

[Circuitjc]

I just took a look through the brochure I have. Under everything other than the Rebel it says nothing about the 4wd capabilities. I know the Laramie I test drove in Janurary before ordering the Rebel had 4wd auto but it was built in the fall of last year.

It is true that the auto 4wd function is in a weaker transfer case. I wish I could find the video I watched were the truck was in 4wd auto and stuck because one wheel was in a shallow ditch and the other three were on ice. All the wheels would stop and then the wheel with the least traction would slip and rotate about half a turn then it would stop and do it again after a couple of seconds. It really demonstrates the difference between the two systems.

The transfer case shifts damn fast in my Rebel compared to anything I've owned before. My FX-4 took about 4 seconds while shifting on the fly. My Rebel takes about a second. I don't need 4wd auto when I can shift in and out of 4wd that quickly.

The skid plates were an option when I ordered my Rebel. They are better than nothing but not that great. Definitely better than the thin plates Ford put on my '14 FX-4 though.

 

[Rebel.Law]

To all the Canadians in Alberta and around the large forest fire, I wish you all the best and please be safe...
Off top I know but, fire isn't something to play with.
Be safe up there !

 

[NeroBoosh]

Ok so seeying that I might be the only one with experience with the auto 4wd option on a truck which means not just looking onto the web for discussion but real experience....I will say this. In 4 auto, the truck was great on roads and highways all winter....both winters. In the bush....if you leave it in 4wd auto, then your an idiot as its not made for that so you switch it to the other 2 options that are available. The Rebel's Transfer is better but only because it is supposed to be used off road more then a reg 1500. The other transfer is fine for roads and highways and always performed great and better then most 4x4 vehicles that I have owned other then maybe my son's Taco. ( damn thing is pretty good in snow) The thing i noticed most is when going through a dirve thru at a Timmies to grab a coffee, the 4x4 didn't behave shitty by forcing its wheels to counter power themselves like a true 4x4....unless you were on 4 lock. That system has its purpose just like the Rebel has its more rugged purpose but I wouldn't say one is better then the other just because I own one or the other. That would be a bias thing I guess. I honestly wish they had made the transfer as strong as the Rebel's with that option avail. It would only be an extra option, not a downside at all.

 

[Chris]

If I go thru Tims with 4x4 on she jumps all over the place, not even 4lo lock. I use 4 lo lock when going on trails here, (no real off roads on PEI), and in heavy snow, 3' or more. I have yet to get the Rebel stuck, and I've gone thru some heavy ****.

 

[Circuitjc]

Ok so seeying that I might be the only one with experience with the auto 4wd option on a truck which means not just looking onto the web for discussion but real experience....

You are not the only one with Auto 4WD experience. GMC has had it for years and is the same as I have described. Mud, sand, and dirt are one thing. When you really need real 4WD is when one set of axles are spinning and you need that one wheel to have power.

Like I said in my post above, 4WD Auto is like AWD but selectable.

 

[BLACKDOG]

Does your Rebel come with a Borg Warner 44-44 or Borg Warner 44-45 transfer case?
An easy way to tell is by looking at your 4x4 controls and seeing if it has (2wd, 4 auto, 4 lock and 4 lo) which would be a 44-44 or if it instead has (2wd, 4 lock, 4 lo) which would be a 44-45.

44-45 on mine, purchased in May in Ontario.

 

[Chris]

44-45

 

[NeroBoosh]

Did you see the word "might" in my post chum? Guess not. But yes excatly what you said but if you have both and you know the difference then no one can ***** about it as they serve different purposes.

 

[Circuitjc]

Did you see the word "might" in my post chum? Guess not. But yes excatly what you said but if you have both and you know the difference then no one can ***** about it as they serve different purposes.

Yes chum. We agree to agree.

 

[Britanicus99]

Rebel was not offered with the 4wheel Auto, So if you got a rebel you do not have 4 wheel auto.